{"id":3577,"date":"2020-11-17T16:24:08","date_gmt":"2020-11-17T09:24:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecopywriterclub.com\/?p=3577"},"modified":"2020-11-17T12:32:42","modified_gmt":"2020-11-17T05:32:42","slug":"better-habits-francis-nayan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thecopywriterclub.com\/better-habits-francis-nayan\/","title":{"rendered":"TCC Podcast #213: Forging Better Habits with Francis Nayan"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Among the copywriters we\u2019ve had the pleasure to meet, there are a lot of former teachers who have gone from helping students learn history, math, and English and now help teach customers about products and services that meet their needs. Our guest for the 213th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast is Francis Nayan, a former teacher, now conversion copywriter specializing in emails. Francis told us about how he made the switch and what he\u2019s doing now. Here\u2019s what we talked about:<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the first hit of dopamine that led him to believe he could make a living as a copywriter
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0what he did to grow his business after landing his first client
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0his wild-west approach to finding clients and why it didn\u2019t work very well
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the first big client that turned into an intense marketing training opportunity
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0why he looked forward 6 months to figure out what to do next
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0how he focused on better habits to build the business he wanted
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the tangible benefits Francis has gotten from the investments in his biz
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0our<\/em> first gigs\u2014how we got started as copywriters
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0being intentional about the business you are building\u2014and doing it early on
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the habits Francis has adopted to get ahead\u2014cold showers, 5 AM, lemon water
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the kinds of email packages he works on and what he charges
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0what\u2019s involved in creating email strategy
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0email deliverability\u2014what you can do to make sure your emails make it to the inbox
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0dealing with the psychology of trimming your list
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0the best subject line for your emails <\u2014this is great advice
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0whether you should do the tech and automation or just the copy
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0why he is anti-social media and what he does instead
\n\u2022\u00a0 \u00a0podcasting and why it is a great way to get your ideas into the world<\/p>\n

This is a great interview you won\u2019t want to miss. To hear it, hit the play button below. Or read the transcript just under that. Best of all, subscribe so you never miss an episode (and leave a review on iTunes while you\u2019re at it).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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